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Pioneer posted on November 4, 2009 06:21

By now you will have settled back to your ‘real life’ and the Moto trials weekend but a memory. Thanks to those who made it a success and thanks to those who participated at the “brainstorm”. I now circulate the comments that surfaced that evening and ask for feed back. I don’t want essays.

I do want you to consider each statement/topic and give it a category

A……Must do

B……Should do

C…….Should consider

D…….Should not do

Then I would like you to prioritise the “A”s, “B”s and “C”sThen if you still have energy tell me how YOU would remedy the statement/topicFor example you may feel that ‘not enough time to complete a trial’ is at the top of your list and you may indicate that running 30 section trials is the remedy.

Here are the statements/topics raised at the weekend:    

-   Time constraints -         “Throw out” time penalty ruling  

-         Allow Experts more time, others less 

-         Reduce minimum number of sections needed from 40 to 30 

-         Be able to take a 5 at any stage without queuing 

-         Abolish ‘minding’ 

-         Trials should be a summer sport 

-         “Crossing your own line” rule needs modifying 

-         Juniors should contest in higher “lines” i.e.  green or yellow 

-         Riders who have contested a grade should not be able to contest two grades below [in consecutive events] 

-         Reversing [wheel turning backwards] should be allowed 

-         Marker pegs should be standardised in NZ 

-         The “optional gate” system of setting and scoring should be used [as used in Te Kuiti on occasions] 

-         Should be allowed to ride ‘out of sequence e.g. section 3 then 2 then 6 etc. 

-         Pensioners should get cheaper entry 

-         A grading committee formed [Commissioner and NI and SI coordinators mentioned] 

-         Make more training available for juniors 

-         Ease A grade, ease “inters” and get rid of green grade. 

-         Split start our grades [spread the field more for starting sections] 

As commissioner I would like to add a couple; 

- Increase rider levies slightly and use present levies more frugally so the balance can go toward Oceania and TDN 

-         Ask each area/club to run an event [maybe trail ride] for funding toward Oceania and TDN.  

Remember. This was a “Brainstorm” where there is no such thing as a bad idea. If you don’t like an idea just put it in your “D” bin. DO NOT ATTACK THE PROPOSER.          You may well believe there is a topic that should be on the list. Tell me about it and tell me the priority you think it deserves.                                                         

Jim Henderson

Commissioner

You can reply to Jim at   jim1@xtra.co.nz or comment here. All comments will be forwarded to Jim.    

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November 19. 2009 04:18
When it comes to the Presidents (green arrow) and Junior grades,I suggest that we drop the age group classes as such and adopt an overall placings system. That would mean we would have only the four grades (Expert, A Grade, Intermediate and Clubman). Assuming we have 5 riders in each class the Experts would be 1st- 5th overall, the A Grade 6th-10th overall, Intermediates 11th – 15th and so on. You would them award the age group awards to those riders achieving the highest overall placing. For instance at our recent Nationals (where there was some farcical nonsense about who won the Presidents trophy) the Presidents award would have gone to Kevin Pinfold as he would have been the rider over forty who achieved the highest overall placing. This is surely what the trophy is supposed to reflect. That is; the best rider over forty in the country, proven by a result in competition. The same system would be used for the Junior grades as well. The result would be riders would be encouraged to enter the highest grade they can, based on their ability and fitness, and do away with riders riding down grades to win trophies. It would also mean the trophies would have real meaning with all riders of eligible age in the running not just those who chose to ride a certain grade. The draw-back is that one rider could conceivably win more than one grade at a time and people will argue that older riders shouldn’t stand in the way of up and coming younger riders and prevent them winning trophies, but that’s sport.You don’t win the prize for being second and with this system young riders will always have the option to step up to the next grade and have the satisfaction (if not the trophy) of a higher overall placing.
I think the green arrow has to go. In my opinion it’s caused more trouble than it’s worth. Older riders have dropped out of intermediate into the presidents grade. The result being the Presidents grade has got harder (now at a level the intermediate was at), the intermediate has got harder because it needs to be harder than the Presidents and the A grade has got harder because it needs to be harder than the intermediate.
I say drop out the green arrow, and ease off the sections from intermediate up. We have a silly situation where we have five or six riders only in each of the top grades and up to 20 in each of the next two. We should be aiming to ease the sections to a point where there’s an even number in each grade.
Another possibility using the overall placing system is organisers could at their discretion decide to recognise other age groups, types and sizes of bikes and of course our ladies.
The only other solution I can see is to adopt the entire Australian system and introduce a Masters Grade and Venables points for the Presidents grade (riding clubman sections). Youth to ride Intermediate and Junior to ride clubman. To be honest though, do we have enough numbers to warrant that?

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