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Hi all    Some reading for the weekend............                                                           

Jim

A word from the commissioner on the NUMBERS of GRADES in Moto Trials. 

At present I am fielding a reasonable amount of anguish regarding the so called large number of ‘Grades’ that we have introduced to our sport and there is belief that you made yourselves well heard at the recent NZ champs regarding your ‘plight’.  I do hear you!           

However, equally loud have been the advocates for the extra ‘lines ‘that have evolved over the years.            

Recently we have added the green ‘line’ and not so long ago, the orange ‘line’.            

The addition of the ‘green line’ seems to be irking more than it should. Those that ride the ‘green line’ are mostly very happy with its introduction [and that is a reasonable number of riders]. These are riders who are more content in this ‘line’ than in either the ‘blue’ or ‘yellow’ line. This would suggest to me that it “works”.           

I hear also: More trophies are needed. More pegs are needed. And we [MNZ] could have sorted the issue better by rearranging existing grades.           

Much discussion was had before we introduced the new ‘green’ line [the only one initiated in my time as commissioner]. The need for more trophies is unfortunate, although this ‘line’ originally complied with a championship grade which would mean MNZ assistance. The need for more pegs was met with the requirement that only one or two pegs extra per section be used.            Then there is the ‘argument’ from riders who are adamant that we should not have a limit on numbers of ‘green’ arrows [per section]. To them my rebuttal is that to allow an indefinite amount of green arrows would not only add to the burden of section setting it would tend toward a complete separate line that could end up as similar to the ‘yellow’ line. To put it another way I would concede that primarily, in the average section, there is probably only room for  ‘blue’, ‘yellow’ and ‘red’ divisions with ‘green’ and ‘orange’ being ‘add ons’ [as often as not the green arrow is placed beside a yellow one].However I do believe that this is a document that will not convince all.           

In summary. What is really hurting? Are you grieved because you have to carry 2 green arrows per section? Perhaps it is the difficulty ‘setting’ the green arrows? Is it because your club has to buy 3 more trophies? Is it because of the confusion that has occurred when a rider is in one grade at one Trial and another grade at the next? Or are you grieved because you believe we could have made different changes i.e. easing ‘red’ and easing ‘yellow’*. And to those who want more arrows…..If the section is not challenging enough with the introduction of one/two arrows maybe consideration should be made to move to the next level?

[* for those who are interested on my thoughts re different changes read section at the end]            

We [I did not make these decisions alone] put much thought into your contentment and I think we struck a “happy medium”. Indeed I see mostly contented riders at championship events. I ask you to think hard and long about what is really making you unhappy about the numbers and levels of grades and give me a constructive reply.           

Just remember these things:

-         Not everyone can end the day with a loss of only 20pts. Some need to lose 80pts 

-          Trophies don’t need to cost $100s 

-         I believe we have a ‘way to go’ before we have similar standards of section setting grading in all corners of NZ. Let us not confuse numbers of grades [which is the above topic] with ‘standards’ of grades which is a topic discussed at AGM workshop with reasonable outcomes. 

-         There will always only be a few elite riders, many average riders and a few poor riders. That is just a fact of life. [the middle grades will always have the greater numbers]

STANDARDS of Grades

Let us consider what some of you were asking for as a solution to the so called ‘Presidents ‘who wanted this ‘in between’ ‘line’. Your suggestion of easing the red and yellow lines has merit but I am wondering if you have considered the logistics:           

Most riders are dissatisfied with an event if they have lost more than 3pts per section or less than .25 pt per section [I personally think I have got it right when the riders, that I feel are appropriately riding their correct class, are losing between 20 and 80 pts at a trial that I am responsible for].           

I refer you again to an aforementioned point: All of the middle grades/classes will contain most of the riders. [Ref. the “bell curve of distribution”]            

Because of this it would be unthinkable that there would be the same number of Jake Whitaker’s as there are John Lawton’s [who happened to be the ‘median’ competitor at NZ champs]           

Whilst there is some room to fine tune each existing grade [and I think there would be universal agreement that ‘red’ should be eased] if you look at the results of Pioneer’s NZ champs the scores indicated that all was fairly healthy in the area of rider classes and scores. [Perhaps there is an indicator that blue was a little easy for some but with present rules regarding the Junior grade and the absence of a social grade this was understandable]                                   

I quote day 2: 

            Lowest score                       Highest score                       Number in class

Expert            8                                              144*                                      3

A grade         39*                                         96                                           6

Inters             16*                                         92                                        22

Pres                1*                                           75                                        17

Club/Jun       0                                              113*                                   24 

*   indicates rider does not always ride this line

You may view this chart different to me but I see a need to ease A grade to foster a little more advancement into that grade and maybe the orange grade would have more riders as well if eased but this is the end of the sport that is fiercely driven and when these guys are asked where to place the pegs [and us mere mortals don’t know any better] they give themselves some crowd thrilling ‘stuff’.           

By pulling some more riders from Inters to ride ‘A’ you could then ease ‘yellow’ line as well but remember here you have a grade of 22 [at NZ champs] who all lost less than 92 [day 2 again] and none of them wanted to ride the ‘Prezzies’ line. They would be happy with a minor fine tune/ease and a reduction of numbers to say 15 riders. This may see some of the existing ‘Prezzies’ elevating to Inters BUT would NOT lure the majority that way. Most Prezzies are happy with the low risk environment of the ‘green’ line and favour its inception even knowing that they may well be competitive in the ‘Inter’ grade.           

All of the above is in the hands of the section setters. You have had no mandate from MNZ to make ‘red’ and ‘yellow’ as difficult as they are. We attempted to put ‘levels’ on section setting at the AGM workshop this winter and you have approval to ease these grades.           

Next year other riders [under 40yrs] will be able to compete in the ‘green’ line [because it is available, because they wanted to and because it makes stepping stone sense] It will now be known as C grade. Prezzy trophies will be awarded to those over 40 in this grade by MNZ.

This by no means expends all that I think on the subject but by now you are all sick of reading. With discussions that are circulating at present on alternative systems it may well be that we can implement a restructure which could take most of the anomalies out of grading/classing issues. But for now I sincerely wish that the sport can move forward in a way that while it will not meet with everyone’s approval you will see that I am doing my best to identify the majority and you will ALL support that decision. May democracy rule?                                               

Jim Henderson 


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Pioneer posted on November 28, 2010 12:23

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Pioneer posted on November 23, 2010 11:24
Pioneer Motorcycle Club Inc 2010 Pioneer Club Championships 
The Bonnington Cup Presented by Cecil Bonnington in 1917, for the most points in competition. This is the Pioneer Motorcycle Club’s premier trophy.
Winner: David Trewin
The Laurenson Cup Presented by Angus Laurenson in 1946, for the winner of the Championship section of sporting trials. Winner of the Experts grade at the PMCC Championships.
Winner: Glenn Smith
The Intermediates Cup Purchased by the Pioneer Motorcycle Club in 1992, for the winner of the Intermediates grade at the PMCC Championships.
Winner: Ross Bristol
The Clubman Cup Purchased by the Pioneer Motorcycle Club in 1993, for the winner of the Clubman grade at the PMCC Championships.
Winner: Stuart Belcher
The President Cup Presented by Don Clarkson in 1992, for the winner of the President grade at the PMCC Championships.
Winner: Glenn Smith
The Mitchell Cup Presented by H Mitchell in 1940, and awarded to the best results by a Novice rider who is in their first 3 years, of riding and using the B Line in the PMCC Championships.
Winner: Sam Elliott
The Peter Bennett Cup Presented by P Bennett in 1950, and awarded to the best performance by a first year competitor, using the B line at the PMCC Championships.
Winner: Billy Rowley
The Blandford Cup Presented by Mr and Mrs Blandford in 1951, and awarded to the riding gaining the most points under the age of 17 at the PMCC Championships.
Winner: Blake Fox
The France Cup Presented by Mr and Mrs LA France in 1947, and awarded to the rider gaining the most points by a junior under the age of 19 at the PMCC Championships.
Winner: Blake Fox
The BSA Shield Presented by Skeates and White Limited in 1947, and awarded to the rider gaining the most points by a Junior rider under the age of 21 years at the PMCC Championships.
Winner: Blake Fox
The Whyte Cup Presented by Mr and Mrs Whyte in 1947, and awarded to a Women rider gaining the most points at the PMCC Championships.
Winner: Stef Downes
The Hallie Cup Presented by Mr and Mrs Hallie in 1994, and awarded to the winner of the Twin Shocks at the PMCC Championships.
Winner: Kendall McDonald
 

Club Champs 2010 Glenelg Spur.pdf (46.76 kb)


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Words by JOSH REICH - The Nelson Mail

Wellington's Jake Whitaker showed why he is the top ranked moto trials rider in the country, cleaning up the competition at the Nelson round of the 2010 Moto Trials South Island Championship in Riwaka at the weekend.

Whitaker, who is hoping to return to the world championship series next year, won the expert category ahead of Motueka's Karl Clark and New Plymouth's Matt Foster.

Whitaker is the current New Zealand champion, having won the title four times, and is also the Australian champ, but was not eligible for the South Island title as he did not compete in enough rounds.

The South Island title went to Karl Clark, who was Whitaker's mechanic in Europe.

In 2008, Whitaker finished 10th in the youth 125cc under-18 class when riding for the Italian Future Trial Racing Team, and is looking to raise $70,000 to get back to Europe.

Three riders from the Nelson region won their classes at Riwaka, with Daniel Clark winning the clubman category in his home town, Lower Moutere's Brady Inwood claiming the juniors and Nelson's Tony Cameron the intermediate grade.

Daniel Clark and Inwood took out the South Island titles in their respective classes, while Christchurch's John Regan, who finished second in Riwaka, won the South Island intermediate grade. Wellington's Carl Robson won the A-grade ahead of Dunedin's Blake Fox, the same order in which they finished at South Island level.

Christchurch's Ross Bristol won the president's grade, with Nigel Shilton, from Hamilton, taking second place and the South Island title.

Debbie Clark, from the Nelson Trials Group, who help organised the round, was delighted with the event and the standard of competition.

"It was awesome, you couldn't have asked for a better weekend.

"Obviously there was some rain forecast for yesterday but we never got it, which was great,

"It was just a really relaxed and really good event had by all."


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Pioneer posted on November 16, 2010 08:16

Hi All

Firstly I would like to take this opportunity to thank everyone that attended the last round for the South Island Series.  What a awesome weekend and I hope you all enjoyed yourselves.  Also my apologies again for the muck up with the results, but we did get it sorted in the end before everyone left!!!

Also I would like to acknowledge those who attended all the rounds but did'nt receive placings, thanks for supporting all clubs throughout the year.

Attached is the overall results for the series and the weekend results.

If you cant open file let me know and I will resend out to you in a different formatt, otherwise it will be on  www.trialsnz.com   web site also.

Also on behalf of Team Whitaker I would like to say a big thank you to all those who brought raffle tickets, t-shirts and sausages. 

It is great to see a wide spread community within the Trials fraternity that are backing Jake in his effort to reach the top, without you guys it will for sure be alot harder, so THANKS!!!!!   We believe in him and its great to see others that do as well, all you have to do is look at what he has accomplished already. 

Regards

Debbie and Karl Clark

Team Whitaker

www.jakenz.com

Overall 2010 SI Series Results.pdf (59.48 kb)

Weekend Results SI Rnds 5 & 6.pdf (1.43 mb)


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Pioneer posted on November 16, 2010 02:01

I am back at my desk following a very successful NZ champs and congratulations must go to the Pioneer club for a great event.           

For my part the ‘Forum’ the I attempted to run on the Saturday was not my finest hour. In fact it was not Moto Trials finest hour.  I am sorry that I took the meeting to ‘boiling’ point but we must move on and the topics that came out of that encounter were;

1          There are too many grades / trophies

2          We need to do more to encourage children into Trials

3          We need to take Trials to ‘Town’ [as in Red Bull Urban Enduro]

4          We need to support our sponsors. Especially our bike importer sponsors

5          We could adopt a grading system as explained by Derek Scott that would eliminate the grading “issues” that we have with current systems

6          We could adopt a “gated trial” system as explained by John Ravenscroft that would eliminate the grading “issues” that we have with current systems

Those of you who have followed the reports this year will have realised that ‘grading’ has been a major topic and was discussed at length at Wellington at the AGM workshop. It was passed there, to form a ‘Grading committee’ made up of the commissioner and the Island Coordinators and it had been my intention to try and get some consensus at the NZ champs [in Chch] as to how we could introduce  a rule to try and curb ‘grade hopping’.            

I was also going to look into the popularity of creating a masters grade. 

It is difficult for me to instigate such things with only less than 10 people in attendance so I look at the NZ champs as an opportunity to gauge “what you really want”. It was a lost opportunity this year and one I will probably not consider again. The other factor that was known to me but not ‘spelt out’ was that to implement a rule change for 2011, I needed to have sent the rule to the ‘office’ for posting on the website by 31 Oct.           

You may see now that I came to the NZ champs after hearing and reading from MANY of you that we NEEDED to do something about grading issues and I was armed with a proposed rule change knowing that I had only a week to get it worded right and posted on the web site [which is where it is now] This rule is designed to stop riders from ‘hopping’ out of grades on a whim. It is designed to get some consistency into the grades. It is NOT designed to tell people which grade they should ride in but obviously when someone wants to change a grade they will have to seek permission and at that stage there will be some ruling as to whether the requested grade is appropriate for the applicant.           

I personally think that a system similar to that which Derek Scott eluded to would suit the NZ trials scene very well and would overcome many more issues than only ‘grade hopping’. It may be a “system overhaul” for the future. We discussed the partial use of this system at the AGM with the junior grade but it did not meet with majority approval. I will continue to look at this system and publish details of how it could work if I gauge there is enough support.           

The “gated trial” would also work very well on many ‘fronts’ and the Hamilton MCC has tentatively set a date to run such a trial on the 23 January at Piopio. They would like to see you all there.           

Items 2, 3 and 4 from our brief forum are all very good points and clubs/riders should be ensuring that this happens.Item 1 [too many grades/trophies] is also a valid point and is contrary to the other rule I have posted for 2011 which is the introduction of a C grade.            

This grade [although not named then] was mooted at the AGM and was to accommodate riders wanting to move from clubman to intermediate in smaller steps. It was to make use of the ‘green line’ that we have available.

It is imperative that the ‘green line’ remain at the same level as at present and is not elevated in difficulty as it is introduced to younger riders

I include copies of the proposed rule changes. You may challenge these through the MNZ website if you feel the need. As I have said, I believe we can do better with maybe a new system but I do NOT believe a better way is to conscript riders into grades. If at any stage you feel that we should be dictating which grades people ride in, imagine how you would feel if we told YOU that you had to ride a grade higher or lower?             

If you want any further info do not hesitate to contact me                                                                                                                                                                       

Jim Henderson   Commissioner  

New Moto Trials rules for 2011

As from 1/1/2011 riders must remain in the grade in which they enter their first championship event after that date unless they obtain the permission of the ‘grading committee’ to change grades. 

The grading committee shall consist of the North and South Island coordinators and the Commissioner. 

All applications to change grade shall be in writing and be accompanied by an endorsement by, at least one, MNZ licensed Moto Trials person. 

Riders wishing to temporarily ride a grade different to their own without contesting awards or points may be able to compete in an event at the discretion of the host club. They must, however, still notify the ‘Grading committee’ of their intentions. Their intentions will be ratified so long as it complies with host club approval.  

Moto Trials rule change:         

Rule 30.2.2Reads now….Yellow for intermediate, Blue for President/Junior & Clubman with President having one deviation……….. 

Change to…..Yellow for Intermediate, Blue for Junior, Clubman & President/C Grade with President/C Grade having one deviation……… 

The purpose of this rule change will be to allow those needing a ‘stepping stone’ grade to be able to ride in the same grade as the Presidents. It will be a new grade now known as ‘C’ Grade. Trophies [or similar awards] for ‘C’ Grade winners will be sponsored by host club and may be won by either a ‘President’ or a ‘non President’ who rides that grade but championship points will only be accrued in the Presidents class and Championship Trophies for this grade sponsored by MNZ and awarded at the conclusion of series or event.

Jim Henderson


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